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Credit Spread Forward : Long or short

R30 : CFAI text V4 Q4 on P.148

The statement : She decides to enter into a six-month Credit Spread Forward
contract "taking the position that the Credit Spread will decrease".

Is this a long or short position by "taking the position that the Credit Spread will decrease". Please judge before you refer to the solution on P.158.

How do you judge ?

I assume she is short, since she is betting against worsening credit conditions

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rosengri Wrote:
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> I assume she is short, since she is betting
> against worsening credit conditions

Credit Spread decrease means improving credit condition rather than worsening credit condition.

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yes, that was my thought - bet against worsening, i.e. bet for improving

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hey guys,

can anyone refresh our memories with the formula for the payoff, please? I remember that it is something involving the notional, some kind of risk factor and the difference between the strike spread and the spread @ expi, but would it be (strike -spread @ expi) or (spread @ expi- strike) from the LONG perspective?
I would go for the second, any idea?

Thanks,
M.

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from the LONG perspective : (spread @ expi- strike) x NP x risk factor

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it depends on if you're long or short a call or put. you're either short a call or long a put in this example (on the SPREAD)

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@FICC_chk

"The payoff to the investor who is long the credit spread forward is = MAX [spread at expiration - strike spread, 0] x Notional Principal x Risk Factor "


If it is Credit spread FORWARD, why did you use MAX in the formula. It is not an option ???

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Just came across this question - quite tricky bit (schweser only got eg on long position and didnt say so). So in summary:


Long position - investor expects credit to worsen and spread widen, so payoff will be Spread at maturity LESS Strike spread x Notional Amount x Risk factor.

Short position - investor expects credit to improve and spread narrow, so payoff will be Strike spread Less Spread at maturity x Notional Amount x Risk factor.

(Note no max bec the payoff is symmetrical)

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