LorrinCFA

^ true but everyone still does it in very subtle ways -- it's very easy to give quiet cues about someone that's not worth hiring. For example, if someone asked me what I thought of a guy that was really a sub-par worker, I might say something like "He seems like he could be OK, but I'd consider looking at other options first before making a serious commitment on this guy."

Kapie

having been given an offer and now asked for referals (they mentioned this in general - i.e. form whomever - and then added as a side, such as form your current employer) did i f*ck give them my manager as a referal! i've been given an offer and have accepted but i still don't have a contract and as far as i'm concerned things coudl fall through tomorrow (or on friday as i am having another interview then for an ER role with potentially much more $ but will probably stick wtih PM rather than ER at the end anyway i think). if i get the contract and it is signed then okay, i will hand in my resignation and will tell them they can call my manager who - i am near certain - will give a glowing recommendation ;)

pimpineasy

^ your grammer is so terrible I'm not sure I got what you said.

zbird2134

Thanks for everyone weighed in on this. Sounds like concensus is to not list current managers as references. I really only have 1 former colleague to use who has left the company. My only concern is that I don't want to appear to come off as being difficult by refusing. Or do I just need sack up and draw a line in the sand on this one?