标题: Depreciation on Income Statement vs. Cash Flow Statement [打印本页] 作者: LiquidAssets10 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29 标题: Depreciation on Income Statement vs. Cash Flow Statement
I've seen on many occasions the depreciation expense on the income statement is one figure, but when added back on the cash flow statement, a different figure is used.
Any explanation for these differences that sometimes arise?
Many thanks作者: scr879 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
Can you give a specific example?作者: Micholien 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
That was also my guess, though I'm hoping someone could confirm this or whether there is another explanation.作者: homie 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
could be due to sale of units... ???
CP作者: disiz64 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
Well, It should not happen. it may be a typo error.作者: ishfaque 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
I would hope its not a typo haha. That would be a serious blunder.
My only guess is that 2 lines under on the cash flow statement is Rental library amortization for $376m. I would bet that the difference is because on the income statement, they only amortize PP&E, and on the cash flow statement, they are showing all amortization (buildings, movies, etc.) but the other numbers aren't showing this (movie amort is about $27m so there has to be something else).
I wouldn't worry about this for the CFA though because the numbers should match up.作者: koba 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
the Two numbers can be different. On the SCF you use the difference of accumulated deprecation on the balance sheet and not the depreciation expense on the income statement.
reason I know this is because I have taken the CMA exams. I'm not sure if the details for this are in the accounting section of CFA, I haven't covered it yet.
there are two instances when depreciation is not recorded as depreciation expense:
1. it becomes a product cost because GAAP accounting requires aobsortion costing. in this case depreciation becomes apart of COGS, inventory or Work in process (WIP)
2. fixed assets used for R&D are to be expensed to R&D and not depreciation.
this is why you need to use accumulated depreciation and not income statement. you will see the numbers match compared to the SCF and BS.作者: dcfox83 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
First off, in response to the comment that it could be a typo, rest assured it is not. I've seen this quite often in many SEC filings, so there is an explanation.
The question was not prompted for exam preparation purposes, but rather to explore an area I've come across frequently and would like clarified.
cfaPower, your explanation seems to make sense to me. But just to confirm, assuming your point #1 holds in this case, would that mean that the $2.9M difference between the two statements is buried under COGS in the income statement? i.e., inventory was in stock for a long-period of time and realized depreciation, which was accounted for under COGS when the product sold, but then reclassified to depreciation + amortization when reconciled on the cash flow statement? And if that is the case, should we therefore expect the depreciation + amortization figure in the cash flow statement to always exceed the figure in the income statement (if/when discrepancies arise)?作者: jim8z3 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
the SCF is not reclassing any items, but is adjusting noncash changes from the BS. For publicly held companies, I'd say the liklihood would conclude change in assets that are depreciated and amortized on the SCF will exceed the expensed portions on the IS. However, every industry has differences. Manufactuers will always have a difference, whereas a company that is just a distributor or retailer would likely not have these differences.作者: ramdabom 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
In many corporate financials, changes in the BS items differ from changes reported on the SCF. Also, depreciation expense on the IS often does differ from changes reported on the SCF. This is touched on in the Free Cash Flow Valuation in L2, but the answer provided in the curriculum only touches on the issue. I think cfaPower provided a pretty good explanation of possible reasons why the SCF and IS don't always equal each other with regards to depreciation.
It is definitely not a mistake.作者: Siddimaula 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
You can't use the change in accumulated depreciation because of asset sales and retirement of fully depreciated assets.
For CFA purposes you will be given the numbers pretty clearly so don't worry about. For the real world you'll have differences related to depreciation expense being captured in other lines on the income statement and balance sheet as was previously mentioned. Use the number in the cash flow statement. It's the most accurate measure of the decline in valuem of net PPE attributable to passage of time and/or consumption of an asset.作者: spartanag07 时间: 2011-7-11 17:29
The reasons can entirely vary based on the nature of the company and their reportable segments. For example, for most of the automakers, IS depreciation only includes their production plants not their financial segments which can be significant.
