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作者: bcp901    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26     标题: this will be on the exam...

OK...2 issues, similar question.

1. When calculating FCFF you need to determine change in NWC. It is my understanding that you take Current Assets - Cash and net that with Current Liabs.? I have had trouble with this the past two years. Is this understanding correct?

(side note, when you calculate FCINV you take difference in gross PP&E right?)

2. When calculating Aggregate Accruals you take [Total Assets- Cash/ST Investments] - [Total Liabs - ST/LT debt]
作者: Swanand    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26

1. Your current liabilities exclude interest bearing debt.

NO EXCUSES
作者: MiniMe7    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26

SkipE99 Wrote:
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> ahhhh yes...current liabilities ONLY with no ST or
> LT debt or NOTES payable taxes payable and any of
> that nonsense right?


Right.

NO EXCUSES
作者: ningning1984    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26

effin CFAI mock threw me completely off..

Balance Statement in the question is as follows:


2009 2008
Cash and cash equivalents $32 $21
Accounts receivable $413 $417
Inventories $709 $638
Other current assets $136 $123
Total current assets $1,290 $1,199
Long-term assets, net $4,814 $4,522
Total assets $6,104 $5,721

Current liabilities $2,783 $2,678
Long-term debt $2,249 $2,449
Common stockholders’ equity$1,072 $594
Total liabs n stck hldrs equity $6,104 $ 5,721


The question was what is the FCFF (so im thinking oh yeah i got this) and all of the inputs were given fairly straightforward with exception to the NWCInv. So I read the BS as recorded above. I come to calculating the CL part and recall that the input is "Current Liabilities excluding 'interest bearing debt' or 'ST/LTdebt'' and think...."Well, CL is $2,783 for 2009 and $2,678 for 2008. If "interest bearing debt/ST/LT Debt is $2,249 for 2009 and $2,449 for 2008, lets just go ahead and exclude/subtract that bad boy from CL because in FCFF its "CL 'excluding' ST/LT Debt." I am a dumbass and now see: Current Liabilities w/o "interest bearing/st/lt debt" is = to "CURRENT LIABILITIES". Because they listed CL above LTD and did not include a "Total Liabilities" my brain sold me out. FML
作者: xilinx_altera    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26

its ok SkipE99.. we'[re all sold out at this point im with u
作者: comp_sci_kid    时间: 2011-7-13 16:26

Lol, sometimes you just look at a question and think "HA!, Silly CFAI trying to trick us with their trickery and play me for a fool, I'll show them!" And then we proceed to make many many dumb@ss mistakes when the answer was in front of us the entire time.




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