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作者: dece2011    时间: 2011-9-10 08:29     标题: Can you compare/contrast it with stalla and schweser

Which one of you used the Elan Guides and can you compare/contrast it with stalla and schweser?

Did you buy the Elan notes? Or just the mocks and 11th hour?

It looks like Elan notes have the LOS's and reference the CFAI page numbers from each volume which is nice, kind of makes you follow the CFAI books, etc. Seems like Elan is really going straight out of the CFAI volume books and just breaking it down for you.

I have read the Schweser notes and they have a different style, just wondering if maybe one of these study materials are misleading. I know for Ethics, everyone is using the CFAI books, but for other topics like Econ maybe another study material is better.
作者: badonkus    时间: 2011-9-10 08:34

Elan provides free Econ book if you register for them. You can probably compare that with Schweser. I have received the free Econ book from Elan but have not taken a look at it yet.

Planning to finish Book 4 and 5 before I hit Econ.
作者: ruchita    时间: 2011-9-10 08:38

msk Wrote:
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> Elan provides free Econ book if you register for
> them. You can probably compare that with Schweser.
> I have received the free Econ book from Elan but
> have not taken a look at it yet.
>
> Planning to finish Book 4 and 5 before I hit Econ.


Yeah I noticed you can get a free Econ book. Let me know your opinion on the study guides, it looks like Elan just started making materials in 2009, not sure how good the materials are compared with Schweser. But from the samples they provide, I like the layout, looks easy to read.
作者: Kapie    时间: 2011-9-10 08:43

I have 11th hour, it's pretty good but I haven't seen Secret Sauce so I can't compare. Based on what I've seen from the samples, the Elan guides look every bit as good as any other guide.
作者: Iginla2011    时间: 2011-9-10 08:52

Yeah, I was reading the Hypothesis Testing sample and really like how they break it down. I know the subject is not the hardest section on CFA, but liked how it gives a simple basketball player points scored example. then goes into the application of the formulas, etc, etc. I also like the structure and format.

They also explain the material a little differently than Schweser. It almost seems that Elan read the CFAI materials and translated to a easier way of interpreting it. Again, well see. Looks like they might have cfa l2 in the future. I have not looked at stalla, it looks a little overpriced. I think they use the "passmaster" system just like the CPA exam does for the Becker CPA study review. Becker is the most expensive system for the CPA studies
作者: thecfawannabe    时间: 2011-9-10 08:56

I used all Schweser materials (note,Secret sauce,video) until early May when some guys here recommended Elan 11th hour. I bought it the day after and it is way better than Schweser Secret Sauce. I upgraded to the Final Stretch package too and thought their Mock Exam is better than Schweser Practice Test. If I have to retake L1, absolutely I'm gonna buy the full package. I think they have some major upgrade for Dec L1 taker (3 mock, more video..)
作者: Zestt    时间: 2011-9-10 09:01

I used the Elan materials for June having failed band 10 in December. I really like them. The videos were long but you can skip through if you "know" that section. There are also some hidden gems in the videos that are not in the notes.
I used Schweser QBank for December and felt it was a HUGE waste of time.

Follow the Elan materials, and do the CFAI EOC questions. If you are having difficulty with a section go through the Elan and CFAI materials until you get it.

The Elan Mocks and 11th Hour guide are fantastic in preparing for the exam. As someone else said they have some upgrades coming out which should make them even better.
作者: RepoToronto    时间: 2011-9-10 09:06

I used Secret sauce,video, notes and Schweser QBank. Video was ok-ish but I have not seen video cources by other providers (i.e. Stella). Notes were shorter then CFAI books but I can′t say they were clearer. Sometimes opposite. Schweser QBank - money waste(!). If I failed exam then this would have been purely due to the time I had wasted with Schweser QBank. I gave up Schweser 2 weeks before the exam and purchased Elan mocks which were closest match (i tried mocks from CFAI, Schweser and Stalla as well) to the actual exam. I now wish I could buy 11th Hour guide and dump Secret Sauce. the latter one is hugely overpriced and I strogly recommend everyone to avoid it.

If I am to go for december exam, I will stick to CFAI EOC, Elan and mocks. Kaplan no longer a good choice. It also sends false confidence signals...

I don′t know what were previous exams look like, but june 2010 was more conceptual (i.e. Elan approach) rather than get the formula and plug numbers (i.e. Schweser).


good luck.

regards, Alex
作者: thecfawannabe    时间: 2011-9-10 09:10

From Schweser I had the mocks, regular books, qbank, and secret sauce.
From Elan I had the eleventh hour and mocks.

Eleventh hour KILLS secret sauce. Its straight, to the point, and covers an insane amount of material (virtually every sentence is testable material). Secret Sauce meanders about a bit. In the actual exam, it seemed that certain questions were lifted from the eleventh hour book. Strongly recommended over Secret Sauce.

Mocks, I'd say get Elan (who test on concepts), but also use vol 1 of schweser (covers easy calcs, and concept. vol 2 is calculation heavy, which the CFA exam is not).

Regular books, Schweser was good, but given Elans quality in Eleventh Hour, I wonder if I chose the wrong provider. Still, I cant really comment.

I thought Schweser Qbank was really good for drilling in basic concepts, but it abysmal as far as practice for the actual exam goes. If Elan made a Qbank, I'd probably recommend it given that Elan seems to understand the CFA style of questioning better.
作者: sabre    时间: 2011-9-10 09:15

I used Elan guides for the June exam. And I have used schweser before for my previous attempt.

Their study notes are structured according to the CFAI books and reference to page no.s really helps although I hardly used them because the notes explain the concepts very well. Schweser on the other hand has a slightly different style but they are obviously not ‘misleading’ many people use them. Overall elans study notes are better.

The eleventh hour is way better than the secret sauce any body who has seen both will agree. And their mocks were also very much like the real exam.

But if you are planning to buy it is best to evaluate the samples urself on their website.
作者: random_walker47    时间: 2011-9-10 09:24

I just registered on their website. How long do they take to send the free economics book?



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作者: former    时间: 2011-9-10 09:28

Nevermind. Got it yesterday
作者: sameeragarwal    时间: 2011-9-10 09:33

Mustafa Wrote:
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> I would have just gone with their package
> instead of struggling through the CFA books and
> feeling insecure about being able to retain
> everything.

I'm still waiting for my package. Are the CFAI books really that bad?
作者: liquidity    时间: 2011-9-10 09:37

No that's not what I meant.

The CFA books are very good in their own right. Having read them properly definitely helped me and the real-world examples really added to my knowledge base. I can also see them being a huge help for people with no background in accounting.

But as you will probably realize in another 3 months, there is a LOT of material to cover. Elan makes is much easier to study for the exam. At the same time, I definitely agree with the people here who have said that it makes the curricullum more understandable as well. Their videos were great and as for the Eleventh Hour Guide and mocks, they're like a must have!


defone Wrote:
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> Mustafa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would have just gone with their package
> > instead of struggling through the CFA books and
> > feeling insecure about being able to retain
> > everything.
>
> I'm still waiting for my package. Are the CFAI
> books really that bad?
作者: bodhisattva    时间: 2011-9-10 09:42

I have spent the last week or so going back and forth between Schweser's economics book from 2009 and Elan's economics e-book. Based on this I have decided to go with Elan. From your comments I am assuming the rest of their stuff is as good (if not better).
Thanks.
作者: zephyranalyst    时间: 2011-9-10 09:46

Are their E-Books printable? Which ones did you people go for? Print or Electronic?
作者: wizofoz    时间: 2011-9-10 09:51

I just ordered the Elan Ultimate Prep Package for Dec 2010. Seems like a really great deal compared to Schweser and Stalla and I've heard glowing reviews.
作者: Darien    时间: 2011-9-10 09:55

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作者: AnalystAlan    时间: 2011-9-10 10:00

Hi...I just registered Elan...could anyone advise how to get the free eco book?
作者: IAmNeil    时间: 2011-9-10 10:04

They email it to you. I got mine the next day.
作者: mkytz15    时间: 2011-9-10 10:09

What did you guys think of the Elan mock exams? Those who used them. I'm using Schweser mocks, but seems like maybe Elan could be better prep. I've compared the schweser and elan questions and they are much different in my opinion in style/format.

Econ for example: (Elan)

Consider the following statements:

Statement 1: The MRP of labor for a firm that is a price taker remains constant at all
output levels.
Statement 2: The MRP of labor for a firm that is a price searcher rises as it expands
output.

Which of the following is most likely?

A. Both statements are correct
B. Both statements are incorrect
C. Only Statement 1 is correct.

Answer: C


I have not seen any schweser ones like this. I've yet to take the actual exam so I have no idea if this format could come up.



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作者: hassan    时间: 2011-9-10 10:14

Elan's mock exams were the closest thing to the real thing. A lot of posters on this thread share that opionion.

I have used Schweser and Elan both and preferred Elan. Elan's style is more conceptual and this is how the actual exam is also for the most part. The two statement style that you mention is an example. The EOC CFA questions and the mocks also contain questions that follow this format.


allegro-cpa/cfa Wrote:
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> What did you guys think of the Elan mock exams?
> Those who used them. I'm using Schweser mocks,
> but seems like maybe Elan could be better prep.
> I've compared the schweser and elan questions and
> they are much different in my opinion in
> style/format.
>
> Econ for example: (Elan)
>
> Consider the following statements:
>
> Statement 1: The MRP of labor for a firm that is a
> price taker remains constant at all
> output levels.
> Statement 2: The MRP of labor for a firm that is a
> price searcher rises as it expands
> output.
>
> Which of the following is most likely?
>
> A. Both statements are correct
> B. Both statements are incorrect
> C. Only Statement 1 is correct.
>
> Answer: C
>
>
> I have not seen any schweser ones like this. I've
> yet to take the actual exam so I have no idea if
> this format could come up.
作者: d2rockstar    时间: 2011-9-10 10:18

What does the EOC stand for in "CFAI EOC Questions"?
作者: jarobi04    时间: 2011-9-10 10:23

Chasej Wrote:
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> What does the EOC stand for in "CFAI EOC
> Questions"?


End Of Chapter.
作者: wake2000    时间: 2011-9-10 10:32

registered for dec exam. just bought Elan ultimate package. Super pumped. i was originally going to use Kaplan but the elan feedback has been too good to ignore.
作者: firat    时间: 2011-9-10 10:36

Good call man. You've made the right decision.

jdough Wrote:
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> registered for dec exam. just bought Elan
> ultimate package. Super pumped. i was originally
> going to use Kaplan but the elan feedback has been
> too good to ignore.




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