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标题: economic expense: schweser practive vol1, exam2, q95 [打印本页]

作者: Ionutzakis    时间: 2013-3-31 13:02     标题: economic expense: schweser practive vol1, exam2, q95

schweser practice vol1, exam 2 afternoon session , q95i
is the formula for IFRS? if under GAAP, when calculate economic expense, do we also include actuarial gain/loss? thanks
作者: Iginla2010    时间: 2013-3-31 13:02

economic expense has nothing to do with accoutning rules so it doesn’t matter if it’s IFRS or GAAP.
I think you add actuarial gain/loss just like plan amendments
作者: bkballa    时间: 2013-3-31 13:02

You don’t add actuarial G/L, economic expense is just:
Interest cost + Service cost - Actual Return on Plan assets
Ref: 2008 secret sauce
作者: bleach    时间: 2013-3-31 13:03

These formulae are better:
1. Change in PBO + Benefits Paid - Actual Return in Plan Assets
2. Change in Funded Status (Begin - End) + Employer Contributions
作者: lunarfollies    时间: 2013-3-31 13:03

deep2002 is incorrect page 104 of CFAI book.
cpk123 in the second formula you need to subtract contributions not to add them.
作者: Kapie    时间: 2013-3-31 13:03

your right,
You should add/subtract current period actuarial losses (gain) in my formula.
CP:
I have Change in funded status (End - Begin) - contributions
作者: anshultongia    时间: 2013-3-31 13:03

End - Begin - Employer Contributions= Economic Pension Expense will give you a negative number, but it’s the same formula that cpk gave; he did the reverse:
Begin - End + Employer Contributions
作者: economicz    时间: 2013-3-31 13:03

deep2002 Wrote:
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You don’t add actuarial G/L, economic expense is
just:
Interest cost + Service cost - Actual Return on
Plan assets

Ref: 2008 secret sauce
No, you do add the actuarial gain/loss to arrive at economic pension expense (see the schweser exam 2pm question)




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