Another ethics question question

kim226

Fellas, Another werid one from Ethics:
Recently, John CFA, a hedge fund manager has been purchasing large quantities of Clean Coal's common stock while at the same time shorting put options on the same stock. John did not notify his clients of the trades althoughy they were aware of the fund's general strategy to generate returns. whic of the following is most likely correct?
John
1. did not violate any codes
2. violated codes by manipulating the prices of publicly traded securities
3. violated codes by failing to disclose the transactions to clients befor they occurred.

What do you think?
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ogoluwa

1

he's not manipulating the markets, and i don't think that a hedge fund manager would have to disclose every single transaction before doing it, he's trying to generate returns as said in fund strategy

pacmandefense

yeah its 1, same reason as dsquared. Simple hedging strategy

dcfox83

AndrewUNH Wrote:
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> yeah its 1, same reason as dsquared. Simple
> hedging strategy


Andrew, how is he hedging his risk? He is long in both cases on the stock, right? He is buying it in either case...

dmar

oh sorry i thought it said buying puts, which would be more sensible.....maybe he's an idiot and just wants to collect the premium and pray the stock doesn't tank.....

Wasteoftime

I presume that the manipulation of markets option refers to the fact that if the price of the underlying falls when he owns the short put he looses money, so he pumps money from the hedge fund into buying the underlying hoping that that will keep prices high enough so the owner of the put wont excercise?? Although I agree that the answer is 1.

But..... If the question was worded in a way that implied the hedge fund manager FIRST issued the puts, and THEN was worried that the stock might fall so decides to pump in money in an effort to keep the stock trading above excercise price, and then liquidates his long stock positions directly after the excercise date of the put, i would guess that everyone would agree the answer is 2???

lc26mizzou

This is definitely a weird question, I would say that because he is a CFA charterholder, he must abide by the stricter rule set forth by the Code of Standard and Ethics. I would believe it's 3 because of the fact that he is a current CFA charterholder

bluejazzy

you guys need to stop fighting over this and move on- the answer is 1 and it's not that weird of a question.

shootingstar

AndrewUNH Wrote:
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> you guys need to stop fighting over this and move
> on- the answer is 1 and it's not that weird of a
> question.


I agree with Andrew. It's not that weird a question. Shorting is considered efficient for the market so even though you are shorting for manipulation of the price, you will be fine.

studyn

the answer is 3. The offence is in not informing the clients of this major inv. Being aware of the fund's general strategy does not suffice on this occassion.