ayaz_mahmud369

Telling someone that he/she cant do something because hes too old or because of gender or whatever is pathetic.

Here's a great line from one my favourite movies, The pursuit of happiness

"Don't ever let somebody tell you... you can't do something"

maryli

No one is telling some one what to do or what not to do. Changing careers is always tricky, given this environment even more so, so everyone is just given their own 2 cents. The decision is on the person

" Look before you leap" a quote from real life ..ps Movies lie !!!

smuggycfa

You're always going to hear of some example where someone made it against all odds. This forum is good because it gives people a healthy does of reality from people who actually work in this industry and have seen a lot.

People are not beating you down for the sake of it, they're just telling you the realistic odds of success. What you do is up to you.

"Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness."

It's why people still play lottery even if the odds are 1 in 300 million

llxx

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> People are not beating you down for the sake of
> it, they're just telling you the realistic odds of
> success. What you do is up to you.
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"The realistic odds of success"...? just out of interest, what distributional assumptions (of the underlying stochastic process of course) are you incorporating in this theory you are developing?

iteracom

Penny-wenny Wrote:
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> > it, they're just telling you the realistic odds
> of
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> "The realistic odds of success"...? just out of
> interest, what distributional assumptions (of the
> underlying stochastic process of course) are you
> incorporating in this theory you are developing?


The hardest part of breaking into finance is having a contact inside or a way to initiate conversation. The easiest method to do this is through your school. At 36 your far removed from your education and you don't have that option. All that is left is your personal network and the online application process (read garbage disposal). If you don't have a person with some sway inside advocating for them to view/consider your resume your going to have difficulity. It's not based on any hard numbers it's based on common sense.

I belong to another forum that discusses finance and every so often the CFA comes into discussion. They generally say the CFA is not a career changer and suggest an MBA for that. The only people they encourage to do the CFA are usually fresh graduates who missed their recruiting opportunites during school (as far as for breaking in purposes). I'm not saying this to discourage you. I really like the positive attitude on this forum and as someone said, "you only need one opportunity."

19831985

Making a mid-30s transition is totally doable. I got my MBA at 32 and didn't officially break into the investment industry (aside from years of real estate investment consulting) until I was 33. I didn't start working on my CFA until actually getting into the industry directly. I have a "regional" MBA and never worked in New York. I'm now 36 and awaiting L3 results and waiting for the return of my wife and kids from their "CFA vacation" that started in May.

Since my early mid-life crisis/decision to transition, I have had two great buy-side positions at a large university pension+endowment and a corporate pension fund. I was very focused in my search and identified positions in which I was truly interested and against which I could map my skills and education to demonstrate that I would be a strong organizational fit. I only applied for a handful of jobs but really spent the time on my approach to each potential position.

I didn't have a deep network when I sought out each job but I did leverage connections on LinkedIn of all places to conduct informational interviews and to get some inside information on both organizations. I think the key is to wring anything out of your previous career that can be applied to the industry you seek to enter. The toughest questions to deal with, though, are the "why know?" questions. Work on your story and your "elevator pitch" and you'll be on your way.



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Otabek

hey step, if youre a criminal then get on the floor.

bolligerallstar

It all depends on what you mean by the "investment line"

If you mean research/portfolio management, that will be a tough move because being in sales/marketing you just have never performed that type of job function.

If you want to get more into a technical investment facing role, but don't necessarily have your heart set on being a portfolio manager, something like Relationship Management/Product Management might be able to leverage your skills from your experience while also giving you more experience working directly with investment concepts. While this also might not be an easy path, probably more likely than going the portfolio management route.

random_walker47

Never you let anybody discourage you by saying you are too old or that it is not possible to switch career at your age, except you are one of those that hang their life totally on luck or fate. With enough passion, energy, focus, good strategy and most importantly PERSEVERANCE, anything is possible to the man who believes he can. There is always a way round every challenge we face daily. Stories and biographies abound everywhere (especially in America) of people rising to beat the odds that stand in the way of their greatness. Certainly, you are up against a host of others who may be more advantaged by reason of their age or some other factors, but I challenge you NEVER to give in to rejections from prospective employers. These challenges are a normal part of life meant to test you if you can stand as a rock and get what you want no matter the circumstances.

"Nothing splendid has ever been achieved except by those who dared believe that something inside of them was superior to circumstances" - Robert Collier

FinancialAnaly

If we need to select the most mysterious member of the year, I would vote for step.