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Paraguay Wrote:
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> FinNinja Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got 4.393% but that's just based on CF
> analysis
> >
> > 25.25 + 25 - 5 = 45.25 / 1030 = 4.393%
> >
> > do we have to adjust for BEY? I know this is
> how
> > they are generally quoted, but when calculating
> > total return wouldn't the actual total return
> be
> > more accurate?
>
> A lot of the Schweser questions used to ask for
> BEY.
>
> This used to be a very large portion of the fixed
> income section so a lot of the Schweser material
> leaves this as legacy.
>
> It is literally a single blue box now.


Paraguay is actually correct! It was a CFAI question.
However, what I am struggling with is why is the BEY the total return? I thought the EAR is the total return which would be 4.39 ?
In SS9, p.49 Q8, Schweser asks for the "total effective return" which in their guideline answer is the effective annual return (EAR).

Any explanations gentlemen?

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Mr.Anderson Wrote:
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> Paraguay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FinNinja Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I got 4.393% but that's just based on CF
> > analysis
> > >
> > > 25.25 + 25 - 5 = 45.25 / 1030 = 4.393%
> > >
> > > do we have to adjust for BEY? I know this is
> > how
> > > they are generally quoted, but when
> calculating
> > > total return wouldn't the actual total return
> > be
> > > more accurate?
> >
> > A lot of the Schweser questions used to ask for
> > BEY.
> >
> > This used to be a very large portion of the
> fixed
> > income section so a lot of the Schweser
> material
> > leaves this as legacy.
> >
> > It is literally a single blue box now.
>
>
> Paraguay is actually correct! It was a CFAI
> question.
> However, what I am struggling with is why is the
> BEY the total return? I thought the EAR is the
> total return which would be 4.39 ?
> In SS9, p.49 Q8, Schweser asks for the "total
> effective return" which in their guideline answer
> is the effective annual return (EAR).
>
> Any explanations gentlemen?

Old convention from before we all had bloomberg terminals and tradeweb.

BEY used to be the only way to quote a bond that people could understand.

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I got 4.393% but that's just based on CF analysis

25.25 + 25 - 5 = 45.25 / 1030 = 4.393%

do we have to adjust for BEY? I know this is how they are generally quoted, but when calculating total return wouldn't the actual total return be more accurate?

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That is always the assumption. A lot of times I think this forum attempts to trick people, but bonds always have the annual coupon.

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FinNinja Wrote:
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> I got 4.393% but that's just based on CF analysis
>
> 25.25 + 25 - 5 = 45.25 / 1030 = 4.393%
>
> do we have to adjust for BEY? I know this is how
> they are generally quoted, but when calculating
> total return wouldn't the actual total return be
> more accurate?

A lot of the Schweser questions used to ask for BEY.

This used to be a very large portion of the fixed income section so a lot of the Schweser material leaves this as legacy.

It is literally a single blue box now.

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