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09年CFA III 上午第一题 求教高手

去年3级的题,求税前return,答案里是最后加inflation的,就是先算real 的税后return,除以1-T,然后加inflation

我怎么觉得是 real税后return先加inflation再除以1—T呀,求教高手了

 

原文

Patricia and Alexander Tracy, both age 59, are residents of Canada. They have twin sons who
will enter a four-year university program in one year. Patricia is a long-time employee of a
telecommunications company. Alexander is a self-employed sales consultant.
Alexander’s annual income is now steady after years of extreme highs and lows. The Tracys
have built an investment portfolio through saving in Alexander’s high income years. The
Tracys’ current annual income is equal to their total expenses; as a result, they cannot add to
savings currently. They expect that both their expenses and income will grow at the inflation
rate. All medical costs, now and in the future, are fully covered through government programs.
The Tracys worry about whether they have saved enough for retirement, and whether they will
be able to maintain the real value of their portfolio. Inflation is expected to average 4% for the
foreseeable future.
The Tracys have approached Darren Briscoe to help them analyze their investment strategy and
retirement choices. The Tracys disagree about the appropriate investment strategy. Patricia
prefers not losing money over making a high return. This is partly a result of continuing regret
for a loss experienced in an equity mutual fund several years ago. Alexander’s history of making
frequent changes in their portfolio greatly annoyed Patricia. She thinks Alexander focused only
on potential return and paid little attention to risk.
The Tracys currently have all their assets in inflation-indexed, short-term bonds that are expected
to continue to earn a return that would match the inflation rate after taxes. After retirement, they
are willing to consider changing their investment strategy if necessary to maintain their lifestyle.
The Tracys are eligible to retire next year at age 60. If they do, Patricia will receive annual
payments from her company’s defined-benefit pension plan and both Patricia and Alexander will
receive payments from the Canadian government pension plan. Alexander does not participate
in any company or individual retirement plan. Briscoe has compiled financial data and market
expectations for the Tracys’ retirement, shown in Exhibit 1. Currently, Briscoe estimates that the
Tracys’ investment portfolio will grow to 1,100,000 Canadian dollars (CAD) by their retirement
date next year.

Exhibit 1
Financial Data and Market Expectations
Patricia and Alexander Tracy
Retirement at Age 60
(2010)
Expected annual expenses CAD 125,000
Annual pension income (after-tax)
Patricia’s company plan CAD 40,000
Combined government pension CAD 40,000
Total annual pension income CAD 80,000
Expected annual inflation 4.0%
Expected annual after-tax portfolio return 4.0%
Pension income from both Patricia’s company plan and the government pension plan is fully
indexed for inflation. Briscoe expects a tax rate of 20% to apply to the Tracys’ withdrawals from
the investment account. The Tracys expect to earn no employment income after retirement. The
Tracys’ residence is not considered part of their investable assets.
The Tracys have the option to delay retirement until age 65. The Tracys intend to retire together,
whether it is in 2010 at age 60 or in 2015 at age 65.
Briscoe determines that if the Tracys retire at age 60, their risk tolerance is below average. If
they retire at age 60, they plan to pay off their mortgage and associated taxes by withdrawing
CAD 100,000 from their portfolio upon retirement.
Another consideration for the Tracys relates to funding university expenses for their sons. If the
Tracys retire at age 60, each son will receive a scholarship available to retiree families from
Patricia’s company that will cover all university costs.
If the Tracys retire at age 65, all pension income would increase and would almost meet their
annual spending needs. If they retire at age 65, the Tracys would pay all university expenses
from their investment portfolio through an arrangement with the university. The arrangement,
covering both sons, would require the Tracys to make a single payment of CAD 200,000 at age
60.

 

答案

Return Calculations are:
Retire Next Year at
Age 60
Cash Flows
Inflows
Patricia’s company pension CAD 40,000
Combined government pension 40,000
Total Inflows 80,000
Outflows
Estimated expenses 125,000
After-tax net income needed (45,000)
Pretax net income needed (using 20% tax rate) (56,250)
Investable Assets
Estimated investment portfolio in one year 1,100,000
Mortgage payoff (100,000)
Investment portfolio upon retirement 1,000,000
Required Return Calculation
Pretax income need divided by investable assets 5.625%
Plus expected inflation 4.000%
Required Pretax Nominal Return (arithmetic) 9.625%
Required Pretax Nominal Return (geometric) 9.850%
[(1.05625 × 1.04) – 1 = .0985 = 9.850%] OR [(1.0563 × 1.04) – 1 = 9.86%]

兄弟,你是不是考前太紧张了,这道题先算哪个后算哪个不是一样么?因为是乘的关系啊。

Real*(1+Inflation)/(1-T)

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兄弟,你是不是考前太紧张了,这道题先算哪个后算哪个不是一样么?因为是乘的关系啊。

Real*(1+Inflation)/(1-T)

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楼主算出来的收益率应该比答案的低,因为差了一个inflation纳税的因子。

想一个投资的案例,获得的投资收益首先都是nominal的,而计算所得税即用nominal的乘税率,就是real return和inflation都要被课税的。如果按照楼主的处理方法,inflation便没有记入算税金.而真正的收益是需要provide这部分税金的

[此贴子已经被作者于2010-5-27 12:55:56编辑过]

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inflation是不能纳税的,只能在real return before tax 之后加上去得到nomal return before tax.

 

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QUOTE:
以下是引用ymhxy在2010-5-27 16:13:00的发言:

inflation是不能纳税的,只能在real return before tax 之后加上去得到nomal return before tax.

 

但是实际投资的时候,获得的收益都是nominal的。整个nominal包括了inflation的部分都要算作税的。不会说纳税的时候把inflation部分作deduction,然后用real return算税金。

其实schweser practice exam都用得是楼上的做法,不过个人认为sample exam的答案处理更贴近实际的case

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请问哪儿能下载到这套题?谢谢

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QUOTE:
以下是引用julia777在2010-5-27 12:53:00的发言:

楼主算出来的收益率应该比答案的低,因为差了一个inflation纳税的因子。

想一个投资的案例,获得的投资收益首先都是nominal的,而计算所得税即用nominal的乘税率,就是real return和inflation都要被课税的。如果按照楼主的处理方法,inflation便没有记入算税金.而真正的收益是需要provide这部分税金的

[此贴子已经被作者于2010-5-27 12:55:56编辑过]

堪误。。。

先加回Inflation的做法required收益率会更高。因为这种做法将题中给出的inflation默认为税后的。等于real的部分/1-tax rate又加上inflation的部分/1-tax rate,所以比单纯的real部分/1-tax rate加上inflation要高。

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schweser上面都是先算inflation的,考试的时候用那个阿?

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。。。。。。

希望之前说的没有误导~~~

 

昨天又查了一下教材,教材里关于这个的例子有一个,叫Ms.Fairfox什么的,忘了。反正就在PWM Inger case之后的一个。

教材的做法是:用arithmetic的算法,先加回inflation,再除以(1-T),具体数字是

inflation: 4%

Real required return: 3%

Tax rate: 35%

 

答案:3%+4%=7% 7%/(1-35%)=10.8%

 

这种做法和schweser的是一致的,相当于默认一个更高的收益率,从安全的角度来讲也有道理。。。所以考试按照教材的处理应该没有问题。至于楼主公布的答案source,没有看过原题答案,就不清楚了

 

 

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