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作者: fishmarket    时间: 2011-7-13 13:24     标题: Debt/Equity vs. Debt/Capital??

Can someone please make sense of this for me. Sometimes (according to Schweser) it's ok to use Debt/Equity to calculate wacc but other times you have to use the DR / (1+DR).

The use of it seems completely illogical (even in the Mock today one problem used D/E and then another you were supposed to use the DR/(1+DR).

Does anyone understand when you're supposed to use them?
作者: OmarAdnan    时间: 2011-7-13 13:24

So long as you get the right answer , what does it matter?

DR=D/(D+E) . So work it out.
作者: onelife1    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

It should be D/(1-D)

Debt = $1 million, Equity=$2 million. What's your D/E ratio? (1/3)/(2/3), or 33/67 (note that 33+67 =100).
What's your D/(1-D)? It is (1/3)/(1-(1/3)) = 33/67.


Debt = $1 million, Equity=$3 million. What's your D/E ratio? (1/4)/(3/4), or 25/75 (note that 25+75=100).
What's your D/(1-D)? It is (1/4)/(1-(1/4)) = 25/75.
作者: tikfed    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Thanks for getting me straight on this.
作者: bingbingliang    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Dreary, what about this situation:

Target Debt to Equity Ratio = 0.30
Re = 18%
Kd = 10%
Tax Rate = 30%

What's the wacc?
作者: tarunajwani    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

WACC = 0.30 ((0.10)(0.7) + 0.70 (0.18) = 14.7%
作者: RepoToronto    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

And here's the whammy.... that is straight from Schweser and here's the correct answer:

Debt to capital ----- 23.08% ----- Debt-to-equity divided by one plus debt-to-equity:
0.30 / (1 + 0.30).

After-tax cost of debt ----- 7.00% ----- Cost of debt times one minus tax rate: 10%
作者: bdavi77962    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

This is weird..and that's why I never use Schweser.

Debt to Equity Ratio = 0.30 means take your debt divide by equity and you get 0.30. That can only happen if equity is 3 times and 1/3 of debt, i.e., equity = 3.333 x (0.30)= 1.00, and debt =0.30, for any amounts of debt and equity.

In some context, it may be possible to argue that D+E does not equal assets (A), say you are taking debt as long-term debt only...in that case, may be Schweser has a point.
作者: tianxin    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Yeah, there's just no reason why that's used (and Schweser does it in other places too).

Would love to know if someone can come up with an explanation
作者: hassan    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Debt to Equity Ratio = 0.30, so Debt/Equity=0.3

and Debt+Equity = 1.0

So Debt = 1-Equity

or 1/Equity -1 =0.3
or Equity = 1/1.3 = 0.76923 and debt = 0.23077.

So Dreary is incorrect in saying : "WACC = 0.30 ((0.10)(0.7) + 0.70 (0.18) = 14.7%"

It should be 0.77*18+0.23*10*0.7 = 15.475



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 08:19PM by janakisri.
作者: Analyze_This    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Good point janakisri - need to make sure I break down the D/E ratios like that when given from now on.

Thanks.
作者: yospaghetti    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

oh man... you're right, although I have not seen it in CFAI texts as that. They usually say D/E = 30/70, etc.
作者: jacksparrow    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

easiest way is debt to equity =0.3

Result is D/E = 3/10

Weight are always (D/(D+E)) and (E/(D+E))

Debt weight 3/13
Equity Weight 10/13
作者: RMontgomery    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

> D/E = 3/10
> Debt weight 3/13
> Equity Weight 10/13

That's easier to remember! Thanks.
作者: firat    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

I look at it as if D/E= 0.3, then D:E =1:0.3, then debt =(1/1.3) and equity=0.3/1.3
作者: luda002    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

jeff,

D/E = 0.3
means
D:E = 0.3 : 1

D/(D+E) = 0.3/(1+0.3)=0.3/1.3
E/(D+E) = 1/1.3

CP
作者: ryanlb    时间: 2011-7-13 13:25

Guys, check this out. Just treat like an algebra equation from highschool.

For instance, if E/D = 0.3, well you also know that E + D = 1.0. So, just solve for E....or D for that matter.




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