标题: Please comment on your Level I experience. [打印本页] 作者: siavosh 时间: 2011-7-27 15:34 标题: Please comment on your Level I experience.
Hello everyone
I was hoping to get some useful insight from all of you who just took the exam this weekend. I have been lurking these boards for a while now and have decided to take the plunge for Level I in June. Since you folks just took the exam I would like you all to comment on your experience studying for level I and especially on the following:
1. The institute recommends 250 hours of study. Is that about right? How long did you guys study. I know productivity varies from one person to the next, but it would still help to know how much you put it approximately.
2. How much did you use the curriculum. I feel it's a valuable resource for learning, but does one NEED to use it?
3. Did you use a prep provider or take any prep courses? Which one is the best from Schweser, Stalla and Elan? Can people who used any of these companies' materials please comment on which one is the best for study guides, lectures, question banks, practice exams and online courses?
4. Any other advice you would give to a first time candidate...
Thank you in advance for taking the time to share your thoughts.
May you all pass when the result comes out in January.作者: DoubleDip 时间: 2011-7-27 15:35
Stop being lazy, search this forum.
Your questions has been answered thousand times already.作者: sameeragarwal 时间: 2011-7-27 15:35
Some real advice: do as much practice problems as possible, doesn't matter whose, just do them. They'll get you familiar with the concepts a lot faster than just reading and rereading.作者: ayodayo 时间: 2011-7-27 15:36
That was actually interesting that how hard they can make that ethics ! it was terrible for both sessions.
Have you guys noticed the overlap among the tasted concepts in the AM session and those in PM ?! I dont know why, but I was under impression that they try to test different concepts on each session.作者: chunty 时间: 2011-7-27 15:36
Linfone Wrote:
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> Some real advice: do as much practice problems as
> possible, doesn't matter whose, just do them.
> They'll get you familiar with the concepts a lot
> faster than just reading and rereading.
+100000000000000000000. the last week of your prep should be devoted to doing questions imo. ~l3 guy
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 12:45PM by builders.作者: joehogue 时间: 2011-7-27 15:36
bez Wrote:
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> That was actually interesting that how hard they
> can make that ethics ! it was terrible for both
> sessions.
> Have you guys noticed the overlap among the tasted
> concepts in the AM session and those in PM ?! I
> dont know why, but I was under impression that
> they try to test different concepts on each
> session.
Thanks Bez - I was thinking that anything that didn't appear on AM must appear on PM but was surprised to see that it wasn't the case - make you conclude: never assume anything that CFA doesn't explicitly state 作者: d2rockstar 时间: 2011-7-27 15:37
BelalM Wrote:
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> Hello everyone
>
> I was hoping to get some useful insight from all
> of you who just took the exam this weekend. I have
> been lurking these boards for a while now and have
> decided to take the plunge for Level I in June.
> Since you folks just took the exam I would like
> you all to comment on your experience studying for
> level I and especially on the following:
>
> 1. The institute recommends 250 hours of study. Is
> that about right? How long did you guys study. I
> know productivity varies from one person to the
> next, but it would still help to know how much you
> put it approximately.
>
> 2. How much did you use the curriculum. I feel
> it's a valuable resource for learning, but does
> one NEED to use it?
>
> 3. Did you use a prep provider or take any prep
> courses? Which one is the best from Schweser,
> Stalla and Elan? Can people who used any of these
> companies' materials please comment on which one
> is the best for study guides, lectures, question
> banks, practice exams and online courses?
>
> 4. Any other advice you would give to a first time
> candidate...
>
> Thank you in advance for taking the time to share
> your thoughts.
>
> May you all pass when the result comes out in
> January.
1) Yes you would need to spend that much time if you don't want to risk repeating it. You might pass the exam with 50 hours of preparation but why to take the risk?
2) I read the entire curriculum from CFAI books - this the best resource indeed
3) I only used sample exams from other providers - don't take bad studying habits from level 1 and use shortcuts; if they help in level 1, i dont think they will help in future levels
Best of luck
Omar作者: strikethree 时间: 2011-7-27 15:37
I agree with Omar, the CFAI books are a very good resource. Did I read every single page in them? no, but I did probably read about half. If you know something inside out like PV, FV, NPV, IRR etc.. you can get away with just using a provider, however, for some of the trickier stuff I would definitely refer to the institute. Despite what everyone says, its NOT THAT boring of a read, quite frankly, if you find the CFAI books boring you should reconsider the charter. I also used Elan Guides, they are affordable and do a fantastic job of supplementing the curriculum, their mock exams were also much harder than the CFAI and do a great job of preparing you for it.
Omar is also right about not using shortcuts. A lot of people brag about how they spent less than 100 hrs studying and passed...Assuming the % needed to pass is 65%, there is a huge difference between someone that gets an 85% and someone that gets a 65%, in fact its 48 correct answers of difference! The material builds on itself, so if you are weak in areas like equity and financial reporting and analysis, know that those 2 combined for about 45% of level 2.
Best of luck.作者: Palantir 时间: 2011-7-27 15:37
BelalM Wrote:
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> Hello everyone
>
> I was hoping to get some useful insight from all
> of you who just took the exam this weekend. I have
> been lurking these boards for a while now and have
> decided to take the plunge for Level I in June.
> Since you folks just took the exam I would like
> you all to comment on your experience studying for
> level I and especially on the following:
>
> 1. The institute recommends 250 hours of study. Is
> that about right? How long did you guys study. I
> know productivity varies from one person to the
> next, but it would still help to know how much you
> put it approximately.
>
> 2. How much did you use the curriculum. I feel
> it's a valuable resource for learning, but does
> one NEED to use it?
>
> 3. Did you use a prep provider or take any prep
> courses? Which one is the best from Schweser,
> Stalla and Elan? Can people who used any of these
> companies' materials please comment on which one
> is the best for study guides, lectures, question
> banks, practice exams and online courses?
>
> 4. Any other advice you would give to a first time
> candidate...
>
> Thank you in advance for taking the time to share
> your thoughts.
>
> May you all pass when the result comes out in
> January.
1. I think 250 hours is about right. Of course, this varies from person to person. I spent more than 250 (roughly 300 not exactly sure) because I had no previous background in finance or business. Almost everything on the curriculum was new for me (besides an intro to accounting course I had taken).
2/3. I did not use the CFAI curriculum at all, in terms of reading through the chapters. I did, however, work through the CFAI end of chapter questions. I used Schweser (books 1-5, the qbank, and secretsauce). You certainly do not NEED to use the CFAI books to pass. I thought Schweser was very good at preparing me for the exam. A lot of people on here seem to think Elan is very good as well, but I have not read their stuff.
4. Do tons of practice questions! Put in the time. Read, read, read and practice, practice, practice, until you understand everything. If you can't get every detail, make sure you understand the bigger picture. This will help a lot. You are in a great position now, with 6 months to go, so put in the time and you can nail it.
Good luck!作者: dreampak 时间: 2011-7-27 15:38
1. I'd say 250 hours underestimates the time needed if you want to feel totally confident come test day.
2. Curriculum is an important resource and should be the first place you look if there's anything you're unclear about. Having said that, the curriculum is also incredibly comprehensive and half the stuff in there you probably won't need to know.
3. A lot of people used Schweser and I've heard mixed things about them. Personally I went with Elan and I'm very glad I did. Their mocks are very close to what you'll see on the real exam and the 2000 practice questions are invaluable.
4. Take it slow and don't put it off to the last minute. Make sure you understand the material first time around rather than quickly glazing over each topic. That will save you lots of time in review and ensure that you have a firm grasp on all the concepts.
5. Good luck and also sorry. You have a tough 5 months ahead of you.作者: Iginla2010 时间: 2011-7-27 15:38
I agree with BruinBaker that Elan guides were a great help. I subscribed to their Eleventh Hour, 2000 practice questions and Mockups, found them really useful. Guess, the mantra is practice, practice and practice. The CFAI books will be great for people who do not have a background in finance. I have a background in finance and NPV, PV, IRR, FV etc has been covered since college days, so I preferred prep providers. It also depends if you have enough time provided you work full time.作者: bkballa 时间: 2011-7-27 15:39
Add to my previous comment: if you want best mock exams that, more or less, represents how the actual exam looks like, you should go for Elan mock exams
Omar作者: lunarfollies 时间: 2011-7-27 15:39
1. I spent between 400-500 hrs. Ive been studying for 10 months in between work and school terms (Im a student), the time does add up. I really turned it up and studied a lot during the last 2 months though. I only had about 260 hrs done by september. I have a finance background so lots of this (most) was good review for me. lots of my time was spent doing questions.
2. I used the entire curriculum. hit every chapter, and EOC question. prep providers are excellent, but the curriculum is the foundation of what you should know before getting to the prep providers
3. I used schweser, was very pleased with their exams as I found them harder than the actual exam - no complaint here, Id rather be over prepared than under. I used the schweser notes as a quick review, skimming topics I knew very well and doing all the EOC questions. didnt use the qbank as much as I thought I would, but did all 6 practice exams.
4. I would recommend starting early, making a study schedule and leaving at least 1.5 months to do practice exams and review. do lots of questions, lots... because you will see the same types on the exam.作者: economicz 时间: 2011-7-27 15:39
1. I spent around 300 hours in all and it was more than enough for me. I do have a fairly strong background in accounting so it was a little easier for me to get through that stuff.
2. I only used the curriculum for summaries and EOC questions.
3. I used Elan's Ultimate Package and I though they were awesome. If you're going down the prep provider route, definitely try them out.
4. MOST IMP: this website is awesome! Check in regularly with your peers here. It'll really help. Also, thank you to joeydvivre, beatthecfa and cpk. Your guidance was invaluable.
Wrote:
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> Hello everyone
>
> I was hoping to get some useful insight from all
> of you who just took the exam this weekend. I have
> been lurking these boards for a while now and have
> decided to take the plunge for Level I in June.
> Since you folks just took the exam I would like
> you all to comment on your experience studying for
> level I and especially on the following:
>
> 1. The institute recommends 250 hours of study. Is
> that about right? How long did you guys study. I
> know productivity varies from one person to the
> next, but it would still help to know how much you
> put it approximately.
>
> 2. How much did you use the curriculum. I feel
> it's a valuable resource for learning, but does
> one NEED to use it?
>
> 3. Did you use a prep provider or take any prep
> courses? Which one is the best from Schweser,
> Stalla and Elan? Can people who used any of these
> companies' materials please comment on which one
> is the best for study guides, lectures, question
> banks, practice exams and online courses?
>
> 4. Any other advice you would give to a first time
> candidate...
>
> Thank you in advance for taking the time to share
> your thoughts.
>
> May you all pass when the result comes out in
> January.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at Monday, December 6, 2010 at 12:35AM by sdada.作者: bodhisattva 时间: 2011-7-27 15:40
To Omar
What scores were u all gettin on ELAN Mock Exams, they were saying like above 65%
I was getting 75%-78% range on an average
once in 80% range also, but not sure whether this is the standard, can u throw some light on this.
Vikrant作者: Viceroy 时间: 2011-7-27 15:40
If you are getting anything above 70% consistently, I think you should be fine. I, myself had a range between 80 and 86% during my 3 elan mocks and thought that I scored even higher on the real CFA this past Saturday. So much of it depends on the types of questions you get, a lot of people spend a lot of time memorizing small details such as qualitative characteristics of financial statements. These things, may or may not be asked..overall though. If you are scoring 75-80 range, that means you are 36 and 48 questions over the 65% barrier. That my friend is a nice buffer to have.作者: PieMan 时间: 2011-7-27 15:40
I scored over 80% on all 4 mocks but I honestly didn't feel 80% prepared. The actual exam was a breeze compared to the mocks, however, so even with a buffer I'd be shocked to find out I scored anything less than 75%.作者: AnalystForum 时间: 2011-7-27 15:41
I think the feeling that i had when i got 77% in CFAI mock was much more sweeter than the feeling I had yesterday. I'm still high on energy levels. I wish CFAI add one extra column for score greater than 80 this time. This would be a real treat for me. What do you guys think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at Monday, December 6, 2010 at 05:56AM by SpyAli.作者: morebeans 时间: 2011-7-27 15:41
vgmalu Wrote:
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> To Omar
>
> What scores were u all gettin on ELAN Mock Exams,
> they were saying like above 65%
>
> I was getting 75%-78% range on an average
> once in 80% range also, but not sure whether this
> is the standard, can u throw some light on this.
>
> Vikrant
2 of them: 88% and 1 of them: 92% - with your scores on mock I would expect your exam performance to be way higher unless stress pulled it down作者: iteracom 时间: 2011-7-27 15:42
I've taken the exam before and failed because I didn't have enought time at the end for review. Lesson learned: This time I have to make sure I keep at least 4 weeks to review and take mock tests. There is so much material, and retention does become an issue so you have to leave some time at the end to revisit your weak points and drill stuff in with practice.作者: svgleeson 时间: 2011-7-27 15:42
Work hard on L1, and pass.
Put in the same effort for L2 and prepare to get your a** handed to you.作者: Colum 时间: 2011-7-27 15:42
Pass Level I first! Then worry about making time for Level II作者: noel 时间: 2011-7-27 15:43
I'll be sure to add my $0.02 if the news is good next week. But yeah Level II is supposed to be an entirely different beast.作者: malbec 时间: 2011-7-27 15:43
Bump. Hoping to hear plenty more opinions...作者: KungFuPanda 时间: 2011-7-27 15:44
Will come back later and share.作者: SkipE99 时间: 2011-7-27 15:44
1) I probably only put in ~125 hours. I stopped counting after I finished "reading" the curriculum. I only counted about 100 hrs spent on the curriculum. The rest was spent doing EOC questions, Schweser practice exams, the CFAI mock, and my own personal flashcards and notes. Keep in mind that I had learned most of the material in school, which explains why I was able to spend so little time dedicated to CFA.
2) I used the curriculum exclusively. You don't need to use 3rd party providers.
3) Didn't purchase Elan, qbank, Schweser, etc. I don't think you need them if you have a good basis in the material (I took it during school). I was given the Schweser practice exams by a friend who used them in 2009. When I do level 2, the only think I will purchase will be the practice exams
Unless you have a memory like a computer, you will always run across questions that you don't know. There is too much material for them to draw from.
Some things that I did that others may or may not agree with:
-Skipped a lot of the quant section because I hate statistics and didn't feel like trying to learn it, so I guessed a lot on the test. One person commented on here that I'd learn my lesson when the results came out. I got 70+ on quant.
-Didn't do the EOC questions as I went through. I came back after I was done the reading and did them before the practice exams
A warning though... don't necessairly follow my advice if you haven't recently studied this stuff. I have my undergrad degree in accounting and finance and I have a masters in finance, so I eat/sleep/breath this stuff in school.
Final results: I passed with 70+ in every section except alternatives and derivatives (got 51-70 in those sections).作者: DarienHacker 时间: 2011-7-27 15:44
I read Schweser notes and CFAI text for ethics and weak areas.
I did all EOC 2 times(first,after finishing reading and second, during revision period)
Also, several mock exams( schweser, elan, BSSA).
Practise question till last day. I think that was my key to pass the exam.
Schweser Qbank is OK for begining but dont spend much time on it. It is way easier than actual exam.
Happy reading to L1 taker.作者: SFoyil 时间: 2011-7-27 15:45
-Schweser notes only, except Ethics
-Did lots of questions through mock exams, Qbank, and read Quicksheet alot
-Found exam easier than mocks, more parallel to Qbank question (Esp. format wise)作者: ayaz_mahmud369 时间: 2011-7-27 15:45
Now that we all have our exam results back I feel I can offer some solid advice to future LVL 1'ers.
To OP's questions:
1. That's about right. May vary depending on how much you know and how intensive each single hour of study is for you.
2. The End of Chapter Questions alone make it worth it. You are forced to buy the books anyways when you register IIRC.
3. I used Elan for the readings -- their materials hit just about all the good stuff you need to know in clearer language than some of the other providers that I've sampled. You should check the erratum though because this past semester they made some pretty significant errors in the original printing of the text.
4. (1) Use flashcards to memorize factual sorts of things, (2) do a lot of mock exams that both the CFAI provide and from 3rd party providers; do all the end of chapter questions from the CFA curriculum several times, (3) make sure you bring something that'll help you fall asleep the night before because I wasn't able to get any sleep that night on account of anxiety, (4) bring some caffeine pills (nodoze perhaps) to the exam (this only works well if you don't have caffeine often).
The CFA website has several hints and suggestions for preparing and taking the exam and I thought those were helpful. You should look at those.
