标题: Did i violate the code of ethics? [打印本页] 作者: dcfox83 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30 标题: Did i violate the code of ethics?
This happened when the PM session ended. Everyone stopped writing. The proctor announced that the time is up and the answer sheets were being collected. My answer sheet was inside the question paper, my hands folded, and i was waiting to run out of the exam hall and experience freedom! Just then, the guy sitting next to met asked me how my paper went, i said it went well. The guy sitting next to me had his answer sheet closed as well
Both our seat numbers were noted down by the proctor. I got worried and went to inquire if everything was ok. The proctor said that everything was ok but they will have to report what they have to report. I was told its a violation of the code of ethics. Seriously?
Anyway, I apologised and requested them to ignore it but they didnt look like they were gonna listen
Will they fail me because of this?作者: dirk01 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
Hmm, I don’t know the ins and outs of how the CFA handles situations like this, but at least at our site, the head proctor did announce several times that there needed to be complete silence….
If the proctor noted down exactly what the situation was and what was said, I can’t imagine they could rule that there was an actual violation….could they? If so, could be pretty harsh, although as they say, only need the appearance of a violation to be in violation…really hope it doesn’t affect your outcome!作者: kickthatcfa 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
Lets hope he did not glance at your sheet during the exam… If you guys have the same mistakes…作者: former 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
kunalCFA,
Take a proactive approach, contact the CFAI and tell them your side of the story before they make a decision solely based on the proctor’s comments. I’d sound unfair for your results for be voided because of this作者: strikethree 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
dude, dont worry about it. I’m sure you’ll be fine, if it was like how you describe it.
I just dont know how some people can be so a.nal (talking about the proctor in this case).作者: dyga 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
I have contacted CFAI and described to them the whole incident, which i am deeply regretting now. My fingers will be crossed for more than one reason on the exam result day作者: Valores 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
Frankly, I think your exam result will be voided and you will receive a private censure.作者: Dapper425 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
This is a tough one. It will be based on what the proctor writes in his note. If it says “candidates were discussing/talking” they might penalize you, but if it says “candidates were conversing after the exam had ended” then I think you are fine.作者: ayaz_mahmud369 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
wow that sucks. I cant believe how blatantly everyone was discussing the test IMMEDIATELY after…even while sitting at the desk. This one kid kept going on about how easy it was compared to last year etc作者: transferpricing 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
That’s kinda crazy that she wrote you up for that. I can’t remember if it was before or after the tests were collected, but lots of people were talking about non-specifics about test difficulty and such after the exam. The proctor never told us to remain silent, just not to talk “during the testing period”…作者: Andreas42 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
did she tell you she was writing you up?作者: Iginla2010 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
Wow… my L3 testing room was *loud* after time elapsed. Everyone was chatting with their neighbor.作者: dvilayphet 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
At worst, I say you get a caution letter, and nothing more. Don’t worry about it.作者: maratikus 时间: 2013-3-31 12:30
@kunalcfa
dude, seriously dont worry about it man. common sense will prevail and you will be absolutely fine. i actually think that there is a good chance that the proctor wont even write anything. he/she would’ve mentioned it to you just to scare you a bit, but they wont.
even if something is mentioned, cfa will have to give you a massive benefit of the doubt.作者: giorgio10 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
Just go check violation statistics and examples to be sure. The punishment ranges from written warning to permanent suspension. I guess you’ll just get the warning, and your exam will be graded. However check it out for yourself on CFAI page.
Spanish proctors are pretty lax. But still I wouldn’t talk during the exam. And I wouldn’t answer if somebody would talk to me. Just ignore.作者: CPATrader 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
Everyone in toronto was talking with their neighbor as soon as the proctor said “stop writing”… I don’t get why people talk to their neighbors… a) you open yourself to some ‘little hitler’ proctor reporting you like the OP and b) I listened to these conversations around me and they inevitably resulted in one party feeling like sh*t for missing one of the ‘tricks’ in the exam… I’m glad that my neighbor didn’t utter a word the entire day. Thank you stranger.作者: KungFuPanda 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
kunalcfa, don’t worry about it man…having said that, do let us know if you do receive any letter from CFAI prior to the release of the result ok…but hopefully, you don’t receive any….fingers crossed作者: badonkus 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
I took the exam in Dubai. And no the proctor didn’t tell me what she’s going to report. I did receive an email reply from CFAI on the request i submitted. It says that a proctor may have submitted a report to the Professional Conduct Program, and that they will be contacting that group to check the report. Also says that the Professional Conduct Program will contact me if additional information is required
In our test centre, as soon as the proctor said ‘stop writing’, nobody really burst into any conversations but i am pretty sure that a courtesy ‘How did it go?’ was going around the whole exam hall. The proctors here were pretty strict. I am not saying that what happened was not my fault, but yes i do believe that common sense should prevail here. It was something instinctive! Meanwhile my friends have been having a ball calling me and talking in a robotic tone “You have violated the code of ethics and standards of professional conduct”作者: transferpricing 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
I gave the exam in Dubai too, some of the proctors were just kids who looked they were barely out of Knowledge village; others looked like bored housewives.
Btw I felt that there should be an announcement before each session and after each session saying please stop talking”and”You may talk now”
The unofficial rule was “you are allowed to talk after your paper has been taken”, but making official announcements would make things clearer作者: brainsX 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
I think this is a very normal phenomenon whereby people will just ask the one sitting beside how was it. Shouldn’t be a violation unless you did not stop writing (this should be more serious). Hope you will be alright.作者: giorgio10 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
Do they notify the person right away in case of violation and is the proctor responsible for letting the candidate know that he is going to report a certain action or he doesnt have to mention that he is going to file a violation? Does it take time for the institute to let the candidate know about a certain breech or warning? I barely heard of a case where a proctor notified the person about a breech or a violation作者: NakedPuts00 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
The proctor cannot write anything about you without notifying you about your violations and having you signed and admitted the violation. If the proctor done none of that you’re fine.作者: ayaz_mahmud369 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
lilzany Wrote:
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The proctor cannot write anything about you
without notifying you about your violations and
having you signed and admitted the violation. If
the proctor done none of that you’re fine.
lol seems like you are talking from a bad experience or something… if a proctor asked me to sign an admission of violation sheet I would flat out refuse and take the case to a head proctor.作者: willsucceed 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
Nope. But proctors just can’t write anything without first notifying the OP the offense etc right?作者: comp_sci_kid 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
you have to sign or they write they informed you and you refused to sign. It’s lawless out there, you just have to accept their way of doing things.作者: Zestt 时间: 2013-3-31 12:31
I don’t think you have to sign, they can report you without having to sign anything.
