laurab

I am definitely not going to France...

YAhmed

bpdulog Wrote:
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> I didn't mean to frame my comment on blaming a
> lack of connections. What I meant is that one
> should try to network as much as they can and
> develop their own connections. Being well
> connected will help you that much in the long run.

I do agree but don't fall into the followibng philosophy: "Networking at all cost". I mean you have to establish smart connections and not be seen as "the guy looking for a job and nothing else"

It seems it is sometimes difficult for people to understand that a relationship is bilateral, meaning you can't always ask and never offer. I already had old classmates that found my phone number on Linkedin, then call me to take a drink and talk about the past. When then time to meet has come, the second question is "Do you think i can find a job in your company?" If you are as nice as me, you say that you will try to do your best to see if anybody around you is interested and you help him. Several years later, you call him back because that time he got a nice position and may help you but he tells you he is unable to do something for you, so sorry about that..

This situation is very familiar to me as and happened maybe two or three times. The result is that now everybody behave the same while having completly forgotten the true definition of helping each other, replacing it with "I am just selfish".

=> Welcome in France, the country where even with MBA, CFA, FRM, ... you still are jobless surrounded by selfish people, the country where people interested in how things works and express some curiosity are strange and should be eradicated.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at Friday, August 5, 2011 at 08:15AM by Fridge.

parott

>Do you have any practical experience and what are you doing to market yourself?

>Got my last two jobs with no connections in the middle of the worst recession ever.

>My feeling is that you can't just throw up your hands and blame connections you have to try different things. Not disagreeing that connections are the way to most easily get a position, but there's plenty of other ways and you have to try them all. When I was out of work I would just ask the question to myself, "have I done everything I can do to get a job today". I eventually got a crappy job at a much lower salary, but that gave me the time to keep looking for the job I wanted. I got the first job off of a company website and the second from a recruiter.

+1 man... I would definite like to take points from u...

firat

I didn't mean to frame my comment on blaming a lack of connections. What I meant is that one should try to network as much as they can and develop their own connections. Being well connected will help you that much in the long run.

NO EXCUSES

Sunshine4ever

The dream candidate for most finance positions is generally someone that is relatively well rounded.

Not just quantitatively smart -- but also a team player, someone who is schmoozy, likeable, has leadership potential, etc.

The folks that I know that have five (or more) finance qualifications are all quantitatively smart, but not well rounded.

A somewhat-less-smart but more-personable person would be more likely to have a successful career and enjoy a lifetime of continuous employment.

SkipE99

Unforetunately, I will be Mr. MA, MBA, CFA, FRM, CAIA if pass level 3 this month....

Phd for sure, but maybe after retirement....

Viceroy

mathlete Wrote:
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> Er.. CFA, CMA, MBA, JD, PEng (within 1 year) no
> job agree with the connections comment


Do you have any practical experience and what are you doing to market yourself?

Got my last two jobs with no connections in the middle of the worst recession ever.

My feeling is that you can't just throw up your hands and blame connections you have to try different things. Not disagreeing that connections are the way to most easily get a position, but there's plenty of other ways and you have to try them all. When I was out of work I would just ask the question to myself, "have I done everything I can do to get a job today". I eventually got a crappy job at a much lower salary, but that gave me the time to keep looking for the job I wanted. I got the first job off of a company website and the second from a recruiter.

random_walker47

Er.. CFA, CMA, MBA, JD, PEng (within 1 year) no job agree with the connections comment

ninja1024

I agree to some extent (and I know a lot of people due to my age and locale), but the designations can open doors as well. Especially in the current job market, no matter what your connections you may not get a look without some letters after your name.

dyga

It's all about connections. What good is all of that if you don't know anyone?

NO EXCUSES